作者  okura (大倉)                                           看板  Gossiping
 標題  NASA 公布 「EM DRIVE」實驗成功
 時間  Mon Nov  9 12:26:20 2015
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1.媒體來源:
英國dailymail


2.完整新聞標題:
Is deep space travel a step closer to reality? Nasa reveals successful test
of 'impossible' fuel-free engine that breaks the laws of physics


3.完整新聞內文:

摘要:
EM Drive Fuel-free engine could take a spacecraft to Mars in 10 weeks.
Creates thrust by bouncing microwaves in chamber, using solar power.
Nasa has conducted more tests using an improved experimental process.
Test designed to remove errors from earlier study but still produced thrust.
Scientists still aren't sure how this happens as it defies the laws of physics.


全文:
An 'impossible' fuel-free engine, which could take a humans to Mars in just
10 weeks, is still defying science after another batch of tests by Nasa
suggested the thruster does work.
The so-called EM Drive creates thrust by bouncing microwaves around in an
enclosed chamber, and uses only solar power.
When the concept was first proposed, it was considered implausible because it
went against the laws of physics - and subsequent tests of the engine have
shown that the idea could revolutionise space travel.
Now Nasa has provided the first update on the test in months, and it seems to
suggest that the futuristic engine does, in fact, work.


Scientists, however, still don't know why.
The update was given by Paul March, one of the top engineers working the EM
Drive thruster at the Eagleworks Laboratory at the Johnson Space Center in
Texas.
He said Nasa has managed to remove some of the errors from earlier tests -
but still found signals of unexplained thrust.
Among the criticisms of previous experiments were that the tests were not
carried out in a vacuum, thereby mirroring the conditions in space.
But the latest Nasa test appears to have addressed these concerns.
March's announcement is the first direct announcement in months, with the
space agency largely remaining silent about any developments on the
controversial project.
March posted on the Nasa Spaceflight forum in reply to an unpublished paper
that claims the unaccounted thrust is generated by something known as the
Lorentz force.
The Lorentz force is the force that is exerted by a magnetic field on a
moving electric charge.
But March says his tests prove this is not true.
'I will tell you that we first built and installed a second generation,
closed face magnetic damper that reduced the stray magnetic fields in the
vacuum chamber by at least an order of magnitude and any Lorentz force
interactions it could produce,' he said
'And yet the anomalous thrust signals remain.'
March also says that in the latest developments, thermal expansion of the
thruster is taken into account to reduce all possible sources of error.






本魯不負責任翻譯:


到月球只要4小時

到火星只要10個禮拜

此種動力只需以太陽光發電即可

完全不需運載任何燃料

科學家說其原理至今仍然不明






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5.備註:

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推 tony121010: 這速度到底多快,我真的相信美國有外星人幫了          11/09 12:27
※ 編輯: okura (118.163.20.133), 11/09/2015 12:27:12
→ apa9394: 其實是我把GN爐借NASA研發                               11/09 12:27
→ barton5614: 分類                                                11/09 12:27
推 Shallwin: 外星科技                                              11/09 12:27
推 crossdunk: 月球四個小時  能載人嗎?                              11/09 12:27
※ 編輯: okura (118.163.20.133), 11/09/2015 12:28:50
→ tony121010: 光不需要燃料這點,真的超屌                          11/09 12:27
推 GNFLAG: 難以想像                                                11/09 12:27
→ simonohmygod: 10周到火星 Watney不用等那麼久了(?)                11/09 12:27
→ Lumial020: 原理不明也他媽太恐怖了吧                             11/09 12:27
推 chiy16: 英國研究                                                11/09 12:27
推 doyouself: 原理不明?那是怎麼研發的                             11/09 12:28
推 vitLink64: 意思是實驗成功了,但原理不明???這也行XD           11/09 12:28
→ KBTIT: 你要翻譯好歹也把微波那段翻出來吧....                     11/09 12:28
推 ohya111326: 真的做出來再來討論吧                                11/09 12:28
→ jeffreyshe: 外星科技喔 原理不明                                 11/09 12:28
噓 carter7013: 10個禮拜不是ㄧ個禮拜                                11/09 12:28
→ yulis: 外星科技複製出來的,原理不明                             11/09 12:28
推 dahlia7357: 怎麼可能原理不明 實驗的發明人一定在哭泣             11/09 12:28
→ Barrel: 靠杯 原理不明 XD 你太陽爐膩                             11/09 12:28
推 NerVGear: GN Drive                                              11/09 12:28
→ komorimomoww: 人造高法身出世啦!!                              11/09 12:28
推 jackXDD: 三小                                                   11/09 12:29
推 shadowdio: 秘密科技 公開了很多集團會倒閉                        11/09 12:29
推 eiw123: ALDNOAH GN爐?                                           11/09 12:29
→ komorimomoww: 是禪理 用靈魂移動的吧                             11/09 12:29
推 wotupset: 有比lambda drive威嗎                                  11/09 12:29
※ 編輯: okura (118.163.20.133), 11/09/2015 12:29:48
推 Leeng: 我都用lamda driver                                       11/09 12:29
→ likeaprayer: 原理不明 因為發明人不是地球人                      11/09 12:29
推 mmm2691246: 狂真的狂                                            11/09 12:29
推 tony121010: 過幾年星艦企業號就造出來了                          11/09 12:29
推 yongb: GN粒子終於出來啦!!紅的還是綠的                         11/09 12:29
推 linjrming: 原理不明也是可以研發啊XD                             11/09 12:29
推 jyekid: 外星人給的吧                                            11/09 12:29
→ sdiaa: 這種加速度人類應該沒有辦法...                            11/09 12:30
推 wwvvkai: 終於公布外星科技了齁                                   11/09 12:30
→ xdbx: 原理基本上就是這樣  然後那樣再這樣  就是這樣了            11/09 12:30
推 Murasaki0110: 鋼彈可以開始生產了                                11/09 12:30
推 giancarlo82: 明明就太陽爐,還說什麼原理不明                     11/09 12:31
→ wellkom: 因應馬習會,先放個消息出來下馬威的                     11/09 12:31
推 limitex: EM drive?  確定不是GN drive?                           11/09 12:31
噓 shadeel: 假新聞吧  XDDDDDDDDD                                   11/09 12:31
→ jyekid: Paul March 你是外星人吧                                 11/09 12:31
推 freezee: 太陽爐?                                               11/09 12:31
→ freezee: 太陽爐                                                 11/09 12:31
→ Max11: 這是別人給地球的科技吧。MIB談多久才拿到的?              11/09 12:32
→ modulation: 外星人科技轉移                                      11/09 12:32
→ eiw123: 難怪歐巴馬說不用油管了                                  11/09 12:32
噓 turtleone: 虎爛的 原理不明是要怎麼研究 每日郵報看看就好         11/09 12:33
→ nocturneC: 等到曲速引擎發明的時候再叫我                         11/09 12:33
噓 soyghcg: 星球內不一定適用                                       11/09 12:34
推 wicer5566: 原理不明                                             11/09 12:34
推 freshbanana: 閉上眼睛就到任何地方了                             11/09 12:34
推 f8954017: 原理不明還能成功?外星人不給技術指導喔。               11/09 12:34
推 catatonic: 就跟你說美帝一堆外星科技                             11/09 12:34
→ aoiaoi: 原理不明 也敢拿出來說 根本唬爛的...                     11/09 12:34
推 MADAOTW: Lorentz force 我看是外星人的                           11/09 12:34
推 t1329kimo: 啾嘰                                                 11/09 12:35
推 iPad101: 感覺是外星人幫忙的                                     11/09 12:36
→ tin123210: 等等!原理不明是怎麼回事,我看這是外星人給的GN drive   11/09 12:36
推 KOSHON: 幹,原理不明也能做出來,沒外星人幫才有鬼                11/09 12:36
→ netsphere: 麥特戴蒙不用在火星種菜惹                             11/09 12:36
→ higan: 原理不明你就是不想告訴你啊                               11/09 12:37
推 wenge321: 可以載人嗎? 加速會受得了?                             11/09 12:37
推 DAEVA: 鋼彈元年                                                 11/09 12:37
推 funkD: 這真的是外星科技吧...                                    11/09 12:38
推 freshbanana: 會先載猴子做實驗                                   11/09 12:38
推 iceyeman: 原理不明就是:太簡單了,說破任何人都會做!            11/09 12:38
推 MasCat: 太快惹吧                                                11/09 12:38
推 losel: 穆德:媽的 還說沒有小綠人                                11/09 12:38
→ iceyeman: 想辦法改難一點中~                                     11/09 12:38
推 Bokolo: 去古代建築挖的吧                                        11/09 12:39
→ alongalone: 是Mithril 再幫忙的吧...我不會被騙的                 11/09 12:39
推 akway: 外星人同意了?                                           11/09 12:40
推 billy950361: 原理不明也可以做出來喔...                          11/09 12:40
推 unz: http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/15/11/9/n4569116.htm 大紀元   11/09 12:40
推 chinhan1216: 原理不明就是外星科技啊 幹                          11/09 12:41
推 ccam: 幹這真的假的                                              11/09 12:42
→ RockManX8: 拜託把能源技術給一下 救救地球QQ                      11/09 12:43
→ panzerbug: 真新聞嗎                                             11/09 12:43
推 kauti: 等等 沒有原理是怎樣實驗成功的啊 沒有原理是怎樣確定實驗   11/09 12:45
→ kauti: 等於理論可以應用啊                                       11/09 12:45
推 sc997520: 外星人跟米國的協定 你給我牛 我給你科技 造就地球第一   11/09 12:45
→ HeiSiaN: 就外星人教的才原理不明  不然勒                         11/09 12:45
推 MUENFENG: 難怪美國最近狂賣石油 原來是不需要了                   11/09 12:46
噓 LittleBeauty: 這唬爛的吧,原理不明?                              11/09 12:46
噓 panzerbug: 每日郵報算半個笑話報欸                               11/09 12:46
推 PhySeraph: 不懂原理   因為是外星科技啊                          11/09 12:47
推 lostman: 這太屌了吧...                                          11/09 12:47
推 MUENFENG: 樓上 英國的笑話報是太陽報哦 不是每日郵報              11/09 12:47
推 NSPS6150: 那還要石油幹嘛                                        11/09 12:48
→ panzerbug:  http://i.imgur.com/aIbNzna.jpg                      11/09 12:49
→ panzerbug: 太陽報是全部笑話報                                   11/09 12:49
推 dan310546: 每日郵報是英國蘋果XD                                 11/09 12:49
推 ntr203: 太陽光發電系統?看來鋼彈也快了                          11/09 12:49
→ poco0960: 歐蕾挖肛蛋                                            11/09 12:50
推 Vett: 這麼明顯  不就是外星科技啊                                11/09 12:51
→ ecohsu: 觀察到現象並實作 原理還不清楚 跟G點是後來才發現的一樣   11/09 12:52
推 gfc: 據說2.3KW可以產生0.02MN的推力                              11/09 12:52
→ fgh81113: 黑科技出現拉 λ-driver什麼時候要出現                  11/09 12:53
推 grandwar: 美帝也知道支那人會偷了,現在很多都不講原理只講能幹嘛  11/09 12:53
推 yeh0416: 快點去圈地為王囉                                       11/09 12:53
推 Carrarese: 原理不明能飛到火星也太神了                           11/09 12:54
推 panzerbug: 半年前好像就有消息,餵狗                             11/09 12:54
推 fallen01: 原理不明  根本來炫耀的                                11/09 12:54
推 mdkn35: 外星科技                                                11/09 12:54
→ KYOROD: 秘密就秘密 什麼原因不明                                 11/09 12:56
推 yiefaung: 覺醒吧 aldnoah                                        11/09 12:57
推 liaon98: 美國人又靠外星人了                                     11/09 12:57
推 sss345678: 原理不明是除了nasa科學家以外 其他外界的不明吧        11/09 12:57
推 d200190: 螺旋力引擎吧                                           11/09 12:57
推 steed: 這科技八成跟外星人幹來的                                 11/09 12:58
噓 gostjoke: 你懂英文嗎....                                        11/09 12:58
推 F16V: 傘蜥蝪公主要出來了?                                       11/09 12:58
推 Hamachan: 假的                                                  11/09 12:58
推 panzerbug: 中國網站也不少報導,說是中國科學家研究               11/09 12:58
推 shimachokong: 什麼時候有GN DRIVE?                               11/09 12:59
噓 yata4547: YA  我也可以說我發明瞬姦移洞了                        11/09 12:59
→ painvano: 的確是中國先實驗出來 NASA在真空無重力的環境驗證成功   11/09 13:00
噓 PTTfaggot: 每日                                                 11/09 13:01
推 celebleaf: 可是飛機不也是先發明出來才在研究其原理               11/09 13:01
推 MADAOTW: https://youtu.be/4hTdSg47h3k                           11/09 13:01
→ MADAOTW: 作者的專訪感覺                                         11/09 13:01
推 Kmmmmmmmmmmt: 原理不明.........外星科技嗎???                    11/09 13:02
推 Xhocer: 靠杯  GN DRIVE  XDDDDDDD                                11/09 13:02
→ painvano: 原本4.3光年的距離縮短成花100年就可以到                11/09 13:02
推 accr942387: 原理好像查一下就有了耶 不過是前幾年的理論           11/09 13:03
→ Kmmmmmmmmmmt: 電驢引擎                                          11/09 13:04
推 iloserSD: 原理不明就是因為外型科技我們科學家還在學習吸收中 地   11/09 13:06
→ iloserSD: 球科技水準又要提高辣                                  11/09 13:06
推 shiriri: 脫懶散的日子要到了                                     11/09 13:08
→ turbomons: 招喚科普王 水精靈                                    11/09 13:09
推 LULU5566: 果然有外星人在NASA做事                                11/09 13:10
→ mike0327: 原理不行是因為不符合我們現有的物理常識                11/09 13:13
→ mike0327:       明                                              11/09 13:13
推 yorunoniji: 接下來就是λ-driver啦                               11/09 13:14
推 MUENFENG: http://hk.crntt.com/crn-webapp/touch/detail.jsp?colu  11/09 13:18
推 octopus4406: 太屌了                                             11/09 13:20
推 cy4v: "原理至今仍然不明" WTF....                                11/09 13:20
推 trp88259: 外星人:這叫宇宙外交                                  11/09 13:20
推 Edaw: 還是λ-driver猛阿                                         11/09 13:23
推 coffee777: 美國果然有外星人幫忙                                 11/09 13:23
推 johnny3: nasaspaceflight原網站http://tinyurl.com/kpnqgr5        11/09 13:23
推 gtcw: 天上人要來了嗎                                            11/09 13:31
推 Nravir: 外星人多透露一點不行嗎                                  11/09 13:32
推 z3728: 原理不明...逆向工程出來了?                               11/09 13:33
推 WEIKUNG: 因為公佈原理石油就沒得賣了啊  當然要先清庫存           11/09 13:33
推 kaworu0612: GN粒子? 還是λ-driver?                            11/09 13:35
推 deed0903: 抓穩了!要起飛囉!                                    11/09 13:39
推 ericleft: 還是贏不了任意門                                      11/09 13:43
推 LucAngel: 下一步就是加入Trans-AM系統了                          11/09 13:44
推 somefatguy: 我有 Hard Drive                                     11/09 13:46
推 chunfo: 原理不明的東西你也敢用                                  11/09 13:46
→ aa874125: 直接跟外星人買飛碟 當然原理不明                       11/09 13:46
推 yuiweq1999: 原理不明居然連掰都不想掰?是不想講而已吧? XD       11/09 13:47
推 suifong: 天上人                                                 11/09 13:48
推 Nravir: 不然就是外星人的太空船墜毀被美國拿來逆向成功仿製類似品  11/09 13:48
推 teardropbox: 外星人不是地球公民 當然不是發明人                  11/09 13:52
推 heartjoke: 有石頭要來地球深度交流了嗎                           11/09 13:53
→ ggBird: 原理不明?                                              11/09 13:55
→ Xinlong: NASA官網我找不到相關消息 nasaspaceflight不算官方吧?    11/09 13:55
推 hobbysleep: NASA到底有多神!                                    11/09 13:55
推 chienk: 如果有 隨便應用在 民間 都是一間股王公司                 11/09 13:56
推 h73o1012: 一定是民進党給的大腸爐!                              11/09 13:59
推 kuku321: 裡面的人會不會變奶昔?                                  11/09 14:01
推 RFV123: 太扯啦!                                                11/09 14:01
推 FantasyRyu: 管它原理明不明,先拿來開發綠能啊啊啊!做三小太空爐  11/09 14:01
推 kiwi0530: 原理不明,就是不能說,怕破壞物理界和諧                11/09 14:02
推 Enfys: 外星人!!!!                                           11/09 14:04
推 bimmers0: 不就天馬銀河系的Asgard送的小禮物                      11/09 14:04
推 lintimken: 愛因斯坦說上帝不擲骰子 結果事實證明愛因斯坦是錯的    11/09 14:04
→ lintimken:  原理不明                                            11/09 14:05
→ WTFisthatlan: 跟綠能啥關西 這東西需要一堆電 只是不用燃料        11/09 14:06
推 elanne: 太猛了吧,這樣以後送美軍到中國本土說不定才兩秒          11/09 14:07
推 krishuang: 這家英國報社的報導我是質疑啦!                       11/09 14:09
→ krishuang: 不過NASA的確有做這樣研究,成果還是存疑               11/09 14:09
推 panda816: 看來是太陽爐 嗯 一定是!                              11/09 14:09
推 tiwan: 嗯嗯 跟我昨天想的一樣                                    11/09 14:16
噓 arrenwu: 跟每日郵報認真你就輸啦                                 11/09 14:16
→ fg008kimo: GN粒子啦                                             11/09 14:18
推 joety1103: 拿外星科技的美國可以打整個地球 中國?!                11/09 14:22
推 polyasekee: 傻子那:我就是老美!                                11/09 14:36
推 otaku5566: 托 懶 散                                             11/09 14:44
推 oscar1234562: 能量守恆?                                         11/09 15:00
推 leov72: 這有看過相關的說明,聽說是微波原理的應用啊              11/09 15:05
推 bmwx6: 終於可以生產鋼彈了                                       11/09 15:29
推 Kemuel:                                                         11/09 15:37
推 fransice7: 外星科技                                             11/09 15:50
推 stand1234: 原理不明個屁啊= = 這種複雜的東西原理不明根本建構不   11/09 16:08
→ stand1234: 出來,我個人偏向這是假新聞啦……                     11/09 16:09
推 cyberia: λ Drive!!!!                                           11/09 16:14
推 melmel1114: 不想讓其他人知道原理吧                              11/09 16:19
→ krousxchen: 其實作出了永動機吧,別騙我                          11/09 16:27
推 RobertDJ: 可能是偷拆外星人的載具吧                              11/09 16:36
推 madeinhell: 太嘴                                                11/09 16:56
→ timh3316: 原理不明 :機密(?                                    11/09 17:07
推 Asucks: 當然不可能原因不明,只是不願公諸於世而已                11/09 18:59
推 JudgmentLin: 觀察到現象 在推估原理? 自然科學實驗?             11/09 19:07
推 Aliensoul: 難道月球上已經好幾個美軍基地我還到處去講嗎           11/09 19:41
推 aiggkimd: 可能是不知道為什麼這個方法會有這樣的結果,所以原理不  11/09 19:53
→ aiggkimd: 明                                                    11/09 19:53
→ aries5420: 可以去納美克星了!                                   11/09 20:01
推 shi21: 原理不明....寶傑的節目一定會說來自外星科技 XD            11/09 21:33
推 lv020628: 喔喔                                                  11/10 04:32
推 Peter521: 原理未知,已經實用,這話敢信,偷點黑科技不想發論文罷  11/10 08:56
→ Peter521: 了                                                    11/10 08:56
推 mack860120: GN粒子? 我好興奮阿                                  11/12 07:32

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